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Nice to be a part of this great forum. I just joined tonight and I look forward to true Bulldog discussions with all you guys.
Anyway, I usually join every rivals.com board for all of our major football competitors every fall. I have been monitoring the Tennessee boards for the last two weeks leading up to this game, and two things were painfully obvious:
1. Tennessee NEVER took Mississippi State seriously. Both the coaching staff, the players, and the fans RARELY spoke of Mississippi State being undefeated, that we were a much improved team, or that we really had any chance of beating them. All the fans talked about was how important it was for Tennessee to get back on track. Back to being a top tier program of elite status. They talked about how important it was to stop making the mental mistakes on defense...that that was basically all they had to do and things would fall into place and the Volunteers would leave Starkville victorious and validated. Rarely if EVER did I hear that State leads or ties the nation in turnovers, has 2-4 NFL defensive backs, has a quarterback that is in the top tier in the SEC, has a running back that is a leader in the SEC. Not once did I hear Tennessee was worried about State beating them, but they were worried about Tennessee beating themselves.
2. After the game I watched all of Derek Dooleys post game interviews. I listened to several Tennessee radio shows and read their boards. AGAIN....rarely if ever was it discussed that they got beat by a good team, all their chatter was, "Derek Dooley needs to be fired, he has never beat a ranked team..." or "Tyler Bray is over-rated! He made poor decisions and played a horrible game!" or "our guys just are not taking this season seriously...and this is a pattern.." yadda yadda yadda.
3, And ESPN wasnt much different...Tennessee didnt get beat by a rising Mississippi State program that is to be taken seriously, instead it was..."Tennessee is a program thats imploding."
Rarely if ever did I hear that Tennessee simply got beat by a superior football team in Mississippi State. Same thing with the Auburn game.
Im just sick of this.
In all fairness, respect is earned and not granted. I get that. But Notre Dame has been mediocre for like 20 yrs or so, and they can be 3-4 and are still a team worthy of daily ESPN discussion and still a team that is to be taken seriously by sports analyst. Prior to this year Notre Dame has been a joke for the most part of the last two decades, but let them beat one team like a Michigan State or Boston College the headlines read, "Notre Dame is back!", its never 'Boston College is just imploding".
Now, having vented all that I did hear on a Tennessee call-in show where an irate fan ranted, "Tennessee has an athletic budget thats 3 times that of Mississippi State! Look a what Dan Mullen has done at Mississippi State in just 4 years! Look at what Hugh Freeze is doing at tsun! (my words, not his). Tennessee has had top recruitng classes for years and we have athletic facilities way better than MIssissippi State, and we cant beat them? Im just sick of this!"
So while it seems obvious that although fans from other SEC schools are polite to State fans when they see us in the malls and out an about, deep down please understand that LSU, Florida, Tenn, Georgia, Arkansas, South Carolina, etc...these fans feel superior to us. When we beat them, we didnt beat them, they just happened to lose that game.
So, as of right now, sitting at 6-0 and with a 99% chance of going into Tuscaloosa 7-0, State is still practically an invisible team playing for an invisible school. According to the rest of the sports world, State isnt winning games, inferior teams having bad years are simply losing those games. And while I dont like being treated as invisible I do understand that getting respect from others is not an entitlement...State has to go out and take respect...and we can and will do that on October 27th when we line up against Bama.
No, I am not drinking maroon kool-aide, no I dont own a pair of maroon sunglasses...I dont need any eye wear, my vision is crystal clear...and I clearly see State beating Bama in Tuscaloosa this year. We are gonna shock the world, we are gonna turn the sports industry upside down when we win that game. One thing about being invisible is they cant see you coming...but after we beat Bama 23-10 in two weeks our doubters will all receive a pair of maroon eye-wear....
And trust and believe...no one will have a problem seeing us then.
This post was edited by marooni 18 months ago
agree, like Banks said, " i enjoy being the underdog."
Welcome aboard and good post.
Great post marooniac... Mullen should let u read that to the team the week of the Bama game :)
Welcome to Bulldogs247. Great post. It's great to hear that type of optimism.
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The only way that changes is you have to continue to win. Do that, and they HAVE to pay attention. I think its like this for any school in the SEC not named LSU, BAMA, GA or FLA. Even USCe had to hire the old ball coach and build for 10 years (some with Ole Lou) and continue to win to get to the point they are now.
Nothing against you guys, but there is nothing Sexy about MSU. That is, until the point you have a few epic wins under your belt. Do that, the rest will follow.
Not any difference in who Georgia has beat and who MSU has beat, but UGA is ranked high and no one questions them. Strange, lol.
GA is overrated. However, there is a long history there. They bring people to the TV and ESPN cares about that and pushes that agenda. All you can do is beat them.
As Ric Flair once said (on multiple accounts) "you gotta beat the best, to be the best putta!"
Texas is pretty much the only difference in ours and OM schedule also, but they talk about how easy our's is and how tough there's is. Go figure
Its not disputed that we have one of, if not the toughest schedule in America. At the end of the day, MSUs will be tough as well. Its a hard sell that who you have played so far would make that argument for you though.
You guys can only play who is in front of you. Not your fault nor our fault that Auburn is a dumpster fire. With that talent level, no one thought it would be but it is.
To be fair, the Texas game is what made y'all's schedule one of the toughest in the country...but that one is looking less and less "tough" as we go along. Other than that, you have the general SEC schedule that's tough on anyone.
You have Vandy and we have Kentucky. Vandy is better than Kentucky, but it's not that drastic of a game. We had Tennessee and y'all have Georgia...and TN darn near beat Georgia in Athens.
So really, Texas is the swing game as far as making y'all one of the hardest schedules in the country, specifically, compared to us....It'll interesting to see how it all plays out and how we look back at the end of the season on some of these games/teams.
OleReb has reminded us of just how it is and how it's been since forever. Nearly all we can do is win. Smart marketing of our brand such as #HailState helps. That will shorten the time that it takes to be recognized. It will be important to be recognizable on TV by having recognizable uniforms, so that will help, too. Other things will help, but winning is the main requirement to be taken seriously in athletics and in war. Coming in second will cause disrespect every time.
BTW, I think beating AL and LSU(especially) are possible this year with turnovers being maybe the main factor.
UCA and Tulare were pushovers but Texas is still a 8 win top 25 team. Utep played with us, Oklahoma , and Wisconsin. And A&M is a better team than everyone thought. And let's not forget bama
No comparing our schedules. UK,AU are the 2 worst teams in the SEC. JSU sucks. This is USA's first year in D1 football. And you caught tennesse on its 2nd worst season in this decade.
In no way m I taking anything away from MSU. Yall have played who is in yalls schedule and won. I'm impressed. Y'all are definitely a top 20 team
Just ready to see how y'all play bama then I can judge if y'all are good or great
UTEP has one win and true they played with those teams but Auburn also kept it close with MSU, Ole Miss and LSU for awhile and also Arkansas. So they both are bad teams. You make a good point and like always in the SEC, you will always find out by the end of the year what you got.
Ole Miss's D-1 wins were against teams that have a combined THREE wins. Tulane, UTEP, and Auburn combined have only won 3 games all year. Texas has the worst defense they've EVER had; that's a fact.
And for UT, they'll finish 7-5. Thatll be their best record in the last 4 years.
This post was edited by TrueMaroon 18 months ago
I have never been part of a State board that had so many tsun fans participating so please forgive me as I try and make the adjustment. I am a member of the Rebel Grove but was blacklisted 3 weeks after I joined...so I can read their stuff, just cant post.
I apologize if I come across as uncivilized but when I come across black rebel bears or whatever they call themselves now the hair on the back of my neck stands up and my mouth begins to water. I have a tendency to remind them of the fact that:
1. they have the lowest enrollment of any SEC school except Vandy
2. that their feeling of "elite-ness" is overwhelmed by the FACT that their freshmen have the lowest ACT and SAT scores of any SEC school.
3. their law school L1's have the lowest LSAT scores in the SEC
4. their medical school entries are among the lowest MCAT scoring class in the SEC
5. the Ku Klux Klan hasnt been on States campus and most other SEC schools campuses in over 30 years.
6. tsun is the only FBS school whose former mascot and flag were banned from televised games in the last 30 years.
7. tsun ranks in the top of SEC schools whose athletes flunk out or leave the program due to grades or other unacceptable or illegal behavior.
I could go on....but last but not least....
We have stomped a mudhole in tsun's ass in baseball, football, and basketball for 3 years in a row!
So, from here on out, unless and until I evolve as a human being and become more civilized...I will refrain from engaging in dialogue with the rebel black bears col reb land sharks or whatever their schizophrenic nature has decided to label themselves as of late. Because if I do, I will probably be thrown off this board too because of what I have to say to those "living-in-a-world-that-does-not-exist" rebel col shark grizzly, oops, no...polar...no...oops...brown....no..ooops...black bears...right?
tsun fans remind me of Neo from the matrix....they think they are badass and can do this and can do that...but in reality they are sitting their fat asses in a seat in a stadium, in a coliseum, or in a ball park with wires plugged into the back of their necks watching State kick their ass year after year and in sport after sport.
Welcome to the real world tsun.
Now, having let my feelings about tsun known...I am SHOCKED at how hard Hugh Freeze has tsun playing.
SHOCKED. tsun has practically no depth. Isacc Gross is the smallest defensive tackle in the SEC that starts I believe but this kid is hitting like he is gonna be the next Nick Fairley. And Jeff Scott is running up the middle between tackles as if he had Anthony Dixons size..but my German Shepard is bigger than Jeff Scott. But this team fights and fights and fights.
Tsun kids are playing with the most heart and fight I've seen in a very long time by any school. While I still strongly dislike tsun, they are representing the state of Mississippi rather well with how hard they are playing with what they have to play with.
We are still gonna stomp that ass this year...but it will definitely be a dogfight.
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