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It has been noted by me and StateMBA we want Griffin to get the ball more. I was curious about his stats ever since the MTSU game when we all feel he finally began to trust himself again. Here they are
17 Attempts 171 Yards 1 TD 10.1 yards per carry
Take out the lsu game just because they are a good defense and you have
6 attempts 132 yards 1 TD 22 yards per carry
Total for the season
29 attempts 218 yards 1 TD 7.3 yards per carry
As I said in a previous thread, Les Miles is probably the best coach in America at getting the ball in the hot running backs hands. To start the year last year he used Spencer Ware/Michael Ford 40 times a game. As the year progressed Kenny Hilliard started to emerge and by the time they played Arkansas Kenny was getting as many or more carries than those 2 backs. That's how you manage running backs. Nobody says Perkins should never touch the football again, because he is good and he been very productive this season, but at the same time your leaving 7.3 yards a carry on the bench and that is unacceptable.
Normally I wouldn't agree with you (2) but I like Griffin a lot. He's more of a Straight Line Power back (JJ Johnson) vs a Multi-Purpose back like Perk.
Perk brings more to the table and that's why he gets the Reps.
I would like to see for Griffin for a whole Series but the Coaches look to me to be putting him in situations where he can have success and by the Stats you've provided it looks like they have succeeded.
Well I appreciate this rarity that you do agree. And yes the staff has succeeded in putting him in good spots, but now they need to do it more so he can have more success.
personally I like the two back set without the fullback. Play action and screens have proven to be productive. I know Mullen has to have a FB but showing a different look would be nice. If it doesnt work then so be it, but Id like to see a fake handoff to Griffin with a dump pass to Perkins. The only way this works is with Griffin getting more touches. Im not a coach but to have 2 TD machines behind the QB would definitely make the Defense think a little bit more.
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I'm all for Griffin getting more touches as well but you can't leave out the whole LSU game to prove your point but leave in the 1 rush for 60yds against Arkansas especially considering any of our backs could have made that play. He ran straight into a big hole and into the endzone without being touched.
No offense but you guys are taking a VERY small small sample size to prove a point. And to further make this sample even worse, you say "hey, lets just throw out the LSU game because they are real good"???? Come on, guys. I hope the best for Griffin but to use these limited reps ans say he will be the feature back over Perkins next year is absurd. By this example, Griffin is the best back in the nation period. Maybe he shuld just declare for the draft now. He got 2 runs for 21 yards against Auburn during meaningless moments of the game. (10.5 avg). He got one run against MTSU for 44 yards (44 avg) in garbage time and he broke a 60+ yard run against Arkansas in garbage time (34 avg). The one guy when he actually gets real carries during actual meaning time, he averages 3.5 yard a carry (11, 38) and thats the game you want to overlook? Also note that Griffin has 3 catches for 3 yards this season.
This post was edited by goldeneye 17 months ago
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hence why inlcuded the 5 games as a whole, as well as the season totals which include when he was not running well. I made the LSU side note because obviously they are good, and the Ole Miss defense will favor the other 4 defenses he has produced those stats on, and not LSU. And your Arkansas point is valid, but my gripe isn't really about that play in general, its about the period between the 1st Quarter that he ran for 8 solid yards and scrub time when the 60 yarder was run.. that he did not see the field on offense. This has happened 4 out of the last 5 games and that is what annoys me. Especially here at Mississippi State when the talent gap is large against good teams, and you have to utilize every option you have to get to the next level with the big boys.
Nobody over looked the LSU game GE, it was included in those stats. I just took the time to come up with the average minus LSU. You don't face LSU's rush defense every week, so there was a side note to show how well he has done against the average defense in our last 5 games. I guess I could have taken the 1 rush for 10 yards against Bama out as well. And yes we are taking a very small sample size to prove a point, because that is all we have.
But Perkins has faced every defense every week. I do wish Griffin got more carries and that allows Perkins to do more in the passing game. But still like Perkins as 'the guy'.
I agree and I'm in no way saying Perkins should ride the pine, but saying Griffin should see 8 to 10 carries a game instead of 2. Do things like like Griffin power run, put them in 2 back sets along side of Russell and fake the dive to Griffin and let Perkins pop out for a screen. Perkins has earned his carries this season no doubt, but we have gotten to the point where Griffin has now earned some as well. It also doesn't look good to recruits like Shumpert when they see a big back run well, and still see 2 carries a game. That's turns into the same situation we have had with recruiting WR's the past few years when couldn't throw the ball. Hard to sign kids when they have the impression our offense/coaching staff will not let them showcase their talents.
This post was edited by bmartin2222 17 months ago
I think Griffin is a really exciting back that does give us more power, and he has shown the ability to make some really good cuts and is deceptively fast.
What we dont know is:
1. Does he know as many plays as Perkins?
2. Does he know the passing routes and can he catch like Perkins?
3. Does he block as well as Perkins? (I think he does)
I think Mullen wants to help Perkins get in the NFL and to do that Perkins will need a good body of work for scouts to look at since his size may be a detriment. Also, Perkins brings leadership and confidence to the offense in the huddle. Thats hard to measure, but it goes a long way.
But I too would really like to see much more Griffin.
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